This history is incomplete and is still being worked on.

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Table of Contents
Preface and Dedication
Chapter 1
Chapter 2
Chapter 3
Chapter 4
Chapter 5
Chapter 6
Chapter 7
Chapter 8
Appendix A
Appendix B
Appendix C
Appendix D
Appendix E

Preface and Dedication
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Although we knew the identity of my mother's ancestors back to James Dysart who died alongside a son on a Revolutionary War battlefield, as I was growing up, no one in my Grizzle family seemed to know anything about that line earlier than my father's great-grandfather, Matt Grizzle, born in the mid-1830s. Although I don't remember being overly curious about my ancestry until I accompanied my husband on a trip to Salt Lake City, mostly business for him but an opportunity to do some sight-seeing for me, one of the places I visited fairly early on a tour of interesting sites was the Family History Library, where I was awe-struck by the volumes and volumes of family histories and family records stuffed into that one building, and, after that moment, sight-seeing tours had to compete for my time with digging through records about my ancestors.

This brief history, which honors the memory of our parents, Herbert and Sybil (Dysart) Grizzle for me, Homer Lee and Elease (Westbrooks) Grizzle for Sherry, and xxx for Larry, presents the results of research on our Grizzle ancestors. Actually, I must admit that much of the digging through obscure records in record archives, libraries, and on the internet was done by my husband, who is as happy to unearth a genealogical treasure as Quick Draw McGraw's pup was to get a dog biscuit. Together, we have sorted through these treasures and used them to form this history, which was co-authored by us, with some very important contributions of records and personal remembrance by the two cousins mentioned above.

Although I waited too long to interview my father's brothers and sisters, their casual conversations never revealed that they knew more than he did about our ancestry. In order of age, those siblings were Irene, James Thomas, known as J. T., Isaac Lemon, Homer Lee, Audrey Isabell, Nellie Imogene, Alvin Ardell, and Catherine. Several of the brothers and sisters have children, but, of them, only Homer Lee's daughter Sherry has shown a great interest in genealogical research, and she participated in the research for this history and in its organization.

Another Grizzle family member who has contributed to the digging, analysis, and organization necessary to produce this history is Sherry's and my distant cousin Larry Grizzle. Although we didn't learn of him until we had collected most of our data, we found that he descended from my Matt's brother Larkin and that he had much more information than we on the family branch descending from Larkin's son George Washington. As did we, he continued his research even as we were writing the Grizzle story, and he shares what he found in this history. He is also the principal author of the section on Larkin.

Appendices in this booklet include transcriptions and sometimes copies of several documents that are not readily available, including abstracts of some early deeds and wills; however, if census data are readily available to potential readers, they are merely cited by source and are reproduced or annotated only when such data appear to need explanation.

Our goal is to provide a bit of history about my father's Grizzle ancestor and the ancestor's spouse in each generation from his father back as far as we have been able to trace and to provide documentation to support that person as the ancestor. For at least one ancestor and for a few brothers and sisters of ancestors, proof of the identity could be established only “beyond reasonable doubt,” not with absolute certainty, and readers of this history must decide whether their standards for beyond reasonable doubt exceed mine and those of my chief collaborator, my husband John.

When we began our research, YDNA testing for genealogical purposes was just beginning to be sufficiently low in cost for many family genealogists to take the test or have a male relative take the test to see what could be learned. My brother Ronald agreed to do the test, and we have confirmed close relationships with a few other people testing, including Larry; however, according to John, who has done extensive YDNA research, too few Grizzles have tested for those testing to be sorted into any large family groups as has been possible for so many other name groups. John has discussed YDNA testing and has provided results of those tests in Appendix Y.

We have not only documented my direct Grizzle line as far back in the past as we were able but have included in this history other Grizzle relatives and their lines. In each case, we have tried, sometimes unsuccessfully, to identify and list spouses of direct ancestors and the direct ancestors' brothers and sisters. With the exception of me, my brother, Sherry, and Larry, we have not included the names of living people in the history and have, in general, not tried to follow lines forward past the early years of the twentieth century.

While the research and compilation of this genealogical record was specifically for my Grizzle line, we have attempted to discover and note names of the parents of women and men who married into the Grizzle family. Often, when we could identify them, we have listed the first generation of non-Grizzle children. Although I knew only my grandfather, Isaac Luther Grizzle, and a few of his siblings who survived to adulthood, my Grizzle great-grandparents, James Taylor and Mary Elizabeth Gravely had died a short time before I was born, and my parents and my uncles and aunts often mentioned them in reminisicing about their younger years and sometimes mentioned, just in passing, that James Taylor's father was Matt Grizzle. Family lore had it that Matt had been a Confederate soldier, and, at the LDS Library in Salt Lake City, I had found a Civil War record for J. M. Grizzle, who enlisted in Company D, Georgia 52nd Infantry Regiment 4 March 1862.End Note That was the extent of my knowledge when we began our in-depth research, mainly after our retirements, for writing this history.

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Chapter 1: What They Knew
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When we began our research in earnest, genealogical records from federal, state, and local archives were just beginning to become readily available on the internet, and we knew that we would likely have to make trips to search through printed records in Lumpkin County, Cherokee County, Cobb County, and Bartow (formerly Cass) County in Georgia.

As Val has stated previously, we knew that her father Luther Herbert's brothers and sisters were Lizzie Irene, James Thomas, Isaac Lemon, Homer Lee, Audrey Isabell, Alvin Ardell, and Catherine and that their parents were Isaac Luther Grizzle and Bertha Watkins, daughter of Thomas Watkins. We knew also that Isaac Luther's parents were James Taylor Grizzle and Mary, whose maiden name was unknown to us at that time. (Known to Sherry?)

We decided to start by looking for more information on the family of James Taylor and wife Mary in Bartow and Cobb, the two Georgia counties where most of the family ended up, and we found them on the 1910 federal census in Bartow County with children George, Archie, Pauline, Ollie, and Gradie, and also nephew George Turner. Since Isaac Luther was missing, we knew there were additional children, but we had to look in other counties to find the family earlier than 1910. For the federal census of 1900, they had been in Cherokee County, where the children listed with them were James H., Isaac L., George W., Archie A., and Josie P., with James H., the oldest, listed as born October 1883 and Josie P., the youngest, born May 1900. Since James Taylor and Mary were only 36, they did not likely have any adult children who had already left home. At the time, we were unsure when James and Mary married; however, we soon found a Cherokee County marriage record that is almost certainly theirs: Taylor Grizzle to Mary Gravel, 16 November 1882. This was the only marriage record that could have been James Taylor and Mary from the time they would have been near adulthood until James H.'s birth.

Using the data found by me, Val, and Sherry, I will trace the marriages and families of James H., George W., Archie A., Josie Pauline, Ollie, and Gradie in a later chapter, but I now turn my attention to finding information about Matt, or J. M., and the claimed father-son relationship between him and James Taylor.

Since J. M. entered the Confederate army in Lumpkin County, we looked there first and found a marriage between James M. Grizzle and Caroline Wimpey 29 October 1859.(1.1) Although we were uncertain that this was Val's and Sherry's Matt, Val gave me the tasks of searching census records for James and Caroline Grizzle or Matt and Caroline Grizzle. I was unable to find any names that I considered reasonably interpretable as them on the 1860 census in Lumpkin County or any county nearby; however, the 1870 census in Dawson County, which joins Lumpkin County on the northeast, included Madison Grizzle, 35, and Caroline Grizzle, 28, with children William, 12, Nancy, 10, Taylor, 8, John, 5, and George, 2. William's age didn't fit with the marriage date of Matt and Caroline, but I kept this family in our records as probable.

As mentioned earlier, cousin Sherry Grizzle was engaged in genealogical research also, and she shared a document that she discovered in the Cherokee County archives, the Homestead Exemption Oath(1.2) sworn to for her and her family by Lizzie Grizzle in late 1878. She states that her husband, named as James Madison Grizzle, would not file the document, in which she lists her birth date and the names and birth dates of eight children: William Henly, Nancy Jane, James Taylor, John Henry, George Washington, Thomas Francis, Arch Wimpey, and Fannie Elizabeth. Since this list confirmed her husband's name and includes all the children – of approximately correct ages – found on the 1870 census in Dawson County, I concluded, as I'm sure Sherry had already done, that we had the correct family.

Since the family was in Cherokee County in 1878, I looked for them there on the 1880 federal census and found them enumerated as James and Eliza Griswald along with the eight children listed on the Homestead Exemption Oath. This census also told us that James reported his birth state as North Carolina and that of both parents as Virginia. Eliza reported that she and both parents were born in GA, and the children were, of course, born in Georgia.

With confirmation that Val's and Sherry's ancestor Matt was named James Madison, I started our search for him before his marriage in Lumpkin County, where he and Eliza Caroline married, and I quickly found the family of William and Celia Grisle, both 60, with sons William, 19, and Madison, 15, correct for our Matt. Son William, Madison, and Celia were listed as born in North Carolina, and father William was listed as born in Virginia. Celia's birth state was not as in Matt's reporting in 1880, but everything else matched.

A look at earlier federal censuses in Lumpkin County revealed that, in 1840, there was a William Grizzle and a female, presumably his wife, both aged 40 to 50, males in the age ranges 5-10, 10-15, and 15-20, and females 5-10, 10-15, and 15-20. The younger males fit James Madison and William from the 1850 census, and the ages are approximately correct for the older male and female to be William and Celia. If this was Val’s family, it means Matt had a second brother and at least two sisters. Although there were three younger females, I considered it possible that one could have been the wife of the older brother, who could have been nearly 20, a hypothesis to be checked.

Since Matt was born about 1835 in North Carolina, I looked for his probable father William in that state in 1830, and the William Grizzle (Grissel) and wife I found were about the age that William and Celia from 1840 and 1850 censuses should have been. There were also eight youngsters aged from under 5 through 10 to 14, and an older female aged 50 to 59. This family was located in Buncombe County, North Carolina.

The other Grizzles or Grizzle variants I found on the 1830 census in North Carolina were in Rutherford County, which joins Buncombe's southeastern region, and in Haywood County, which joins Buncombe on the west. The male and female in Haywood County were too young to be William's parents, and, even had the ages been appropriate, our close inspection of the name as written on the census form showed that the supposed “G” was unlike any of the several other upper-case (or even lower-case) “G”s on the page, all of which were similar to one another. The Grizzle (Grizzel) families in Rutherford County were those of James Grizzel, age fairly close to that of William, and Henry Grizzel, aged between 60 and 69, with a female, presumably his wife(1.3)

The other Grizzles or Grizzle variants I found on the 1830 census in North Carolina were in Rutherford County, which joins Buncombe's southeastern region, and in Haywood County, which joins Buncombe on the west. The male and female in Haywood County were too young to be William's parents, and, even had the ages been appropriate, our close inspection of the name as written on the census form showed that the supposed “G” was unlike any of the several other upper-case (or even lower-case) “G”s on the page, all of which were similar to one another. The Grizzle (Grizzel) families in Rutherford County were those of James Grizzel, age fairly close to that of William, and Henry Grizzel, aged between 60 and 69, with a female, presumably his wife(1.3), in the same age range. With them was one female, aged between 20 and 29.

Although I have tentatively accepted the William Grissel in Buncombe County as Matt's father, I cannot be absolutely certain of this identification. It is also quite likely that the Henry Grizzel in Rutherford County was William's father and Matt's grandfather, but, once again, that is not totally certain.

Since I had found Grizzles in North Carolina only in Buncombe County and Rutherford County in 1830, I looked for records of them in those counties at earlier times, and I found Grizzles in Rutherford County but no other North Carolina county. On the 1820 census in Rutherford County, I found Henry Grizzle, age over 45, with a wife over 45, a male and 2 females older than 16 and possibly as old as 26, and one male and one female between 10 and 16. It appears likely that this Henry is identical to the Henry from the 1830 census.(1.4) Separated from Henry on the census listing were William Grissel, who was between 18 and 26 with a wife in the same age range, and rounding out the family were one male under 10 and one female under 10. Enumerated on the line before William was John Grissel, between 26 and 45, and family.(1.5)

In 1810, in North Carolina, there was no Henry Grizzle, or a Henry with a possible variant on the surname; however, Rutherford County was home to John Grizzle, over 45, and his wife over 45, and their household consisting of a male between 16 and 26, a male between 10 and 16, a male under 10, a female between 16 and 26, a female between 10 and16, and two females under 10. I found no proof but have made the assumption that John from 1810 was the same individual as Henry from later census years, probably named John Henry or, perhaps, Henry John. From ages given on various censuses, I deduced that Henry/John, to whom I will refer as John Henry, was probably born between 1760 and 1770.

In 1800, I found no Grizzles in Rutherford County or Buncombe County; however, in Nash County, far to the east, I found Arthur Grizel, Daniel Grizel, Herod Grizel, and William Grizel. Only Arthur and his wife, both between 16 and 25, were in his family. Daniel's family consisted of him and his wife, both between 25 and 45, a male under 10, and two females under 10. In Herrod's family, there were he and his wife, 26 through 44, a male and three females under 10, and a male from 16 through 25, and William's family consisted of him and his wife, 45 or older, a male 10 to 15, and a female under 10. The abstract of William's will shows that these men belonged to one family, but there is no mention of John Henry by either name in the abstract. Although I could not rule this William out as Val's ancestor, I considered it very unlikely. Arthur was too young to be father of John Henry, the man who is most likely the grandfather of Matt. Daniel and Herrod are very unlikely as Val’s ancestor since no one in her Grizzles as far back as Matt has ever borne the either of those names – or, for that matter, the name Arthur.

In 1790, on the federal census, there was a family headed by a man whose name may be William Grissel; however, based on (1) the presence of many people with the name Grissett (and variations) being enumerated on later censuses in that county and (2) the listing by several family trees of a William Grissette who was born in the mid-1700s and lived and died in Brunswick County, I believe the name was Grisset instead of Grissel.

Except for the instance above, I did not find Grizzles in North Carolina on any census before 1800, and, therefore, broadened our search to Virginia, which William Grizzle had reported as his birth state for the 1850 census in Lumpkin County, Georgia. Although it is possible that he was mistaken about Virginia being his birth state since he reported the birth state as North Carolina on the 1870 census in Dawson County, if it was incorrect for him, he had probably heard his parents speak of living in Virginia. The 1790 and the 1800 federal censuses for Virginia were mostly destroyed in the War of 1812, and researchers must often turn to state tax lists and voter lists for genealogical data, which I did.

On the 1783 state tax roll, the Grizzle family, or families, if they were not all from a single ancestor, seemed to be in Chesterfield County, Virginia, where George Grissell, Henry Grissell, and William Grissell appeared. No ages were provided, but they must surely have been at least 21 to be taxed. The 1788 personal tax roll showed William Grizel in Buckingham County with one free tithe, meaning he was the only adult male in the family, and he owned two horses, with no other property listed. On the 1800 personal tax roll, the only Grizzles found were in Buckingham County, a few miles west of Chesterfield County, and there Henry Grizle had one free tithe, and George Grizle had one free tithe and owned one horse. In 1801, on the tax roll and listed as being on Army Land in the Virginia Military District, there was a Joel Grissol, whose name was possibly Grizzle; however, although he may have been a relative, I am extremely doubtful that he was the ancestor since Joel has not been a name used in Val's Grizzle family.

I concluded that George, Henry, and William Grizzle in early Virginia were almost certainly members of Val's family, and that the early-day Henry may have been the ancestor later found in North Carolina.

Looking for Grizzles even earlier in Virginia revealed two men who are documented as early immigrants, Humphrey Grizzell(1.6)), who arrived in 1636 with Robert Hollom as his sponsor, and William Grissell(1.7), who arrived in 1654. Many genealogists who do not evaluate all available records have conflated the two, and some have even given Humphrey the title Sir Humphrey, which appears unlikely since an immigrant whose passage was paid by a sponsor usually became an indentured servant, not a likely fate for a man with a title. I have found little more about Humphrey or his offspring; however, he appears to have had a daughter Elizabeth, born shortly before or shortly after the trip to Virginia. Immigrant William may well have been the American patriarch of our Grizzle family; however, I cannot rule out the possibility that the original ancestors in the colonies did not arrive in Virginia but instead came to the region where so many southerners' ancestors began life in the colonies, the little area where Pennsylvania, Delaware, and Maryland join. If so, our Grizzle ancestors soon relocated to Virginia.

In this chapter, I have tried to trace the ancestral line back as far as I could in this country and have found that it extends back to colonial America in Virginia, possibly even beginning with William Grissell, who came to Virginia in 1654. I have not attempted to fill out the families with brothers and sisters, wives and husbands but will do so in later chapters, and, as part of this history, I will postulate a Virginia ancestor for John Henry, correctly or incorrectly.

Notes for Chapter 1

    Marriages Of Rutherford County, North Carolina, 1779-1868, Compiled by Brent H. Holcomb (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1986, ISBN 0-8063-1144-4)
  1. John Grizel to Sally Taylor, 15 Apr 1813; Jesse Taylor, BM
  2. Sally Griple to Edward Coldwell, 26 Aug 1816; Henry Culbreath, BM
  3. Betsy Grizzle to Thomas Covington, 14 Jun 1824; Richard Covington, BM
  4. Rebecca Grizzle to Edmond Sutton, 30 Dec 1824; Aaron Butler, BM
  5. James Grizzle to Rachel King, 19 Dec 1826; Barney King, BM
  6. Temp Grizzle to Allen Henderson, 17 Jun 1836; Barnabas A. Baber, BM
    NOTE: I cannot be certain that the Sally Griple who married Edward Coldwell was really a Grizzle; however, there appears to be a place for her in the family of John (John Henry) in 1810.

Chapter 2: The Genealogical Digging
Discovery, Analysis, and Assignment
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Notes for Chapter 2

Chapter 8: A New Tool for Genealogical Research
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We were not extremely far into research on this family when I took part in the Alexander project YDNA testing that helped me verify some parts of my family tree and to refute the early lineage ascribed to my tree by many earlier genealogists. This led Val to persuade her brother Ronald Grizzle to take this test, in which only males can participate since only only they carry the Y chromosome.

In the early days, Ronald's YDNA results led to only one possible connection to a Grizzle relative since few Grizzles had participated in the testing. Even today, few Grizzles have tested, but, the Grizzle DNA project helped connect me with Larry, who became a co-researcher for this history and also provided evidence that he, Ronald, and four additional Grizzles, five including the original match, share a common ancestor from the era after the adoption of the Grizzle name (or variation). This size makes this YDNA group of seven families – including Val, Ronald, and Sherry in the same family – the largest Grizzle group in the DNA project. One of the members is from England; however, it is likely that most, if not all, of the others descend from the early Virginia Grizzles.

I will digress for a bit of discussion about DNA, YDNA, and testing of YDNA. I have been involved in YDNA projects since the early days, and this section is a modification of a similar discussion I wrote for the history of my Alexander family.

YDNA Testing: How it all works

You can find all this information in almost any modern book on human biology, but I'll summarize it to make it easy, I hope. Actually, I found it difficult not to get lost in all the discussions of DNA mutation, short tandem repeat (STR), haplotype, allele, single nucleotide, single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP, which is usually just called a SNIP), and haplogroup; therefore, I'll define each term so that anyone interested can look back for reference. Still, I'll try to use most of the terms sparingly, often substituting other words.

To begin, we need to introduce cells, chromosomes, and DNA, all words you probably remember from high-school biology, even if you are as old as I am. Our bodies are formed of cells, and the nucleus of every normal cell in our bodies contains 46 chromosomes, 23 from each parent. Occasionally, there are people with exceptions, but the exceptions are rare. Each chromosome is made up of a DNA molecule wrapped around other material.

Two of these 46 chromosomes are the sex chromosomes. For each female, the sex chromosomes are both X chromosomes, one given by her mother and one given by her father. For each male, one sex chromosome is an X chromosome from his mother, and one is a Y chromosome from his father. The Y chromosome is always inherited from the father; so it comes down to each male from his father, from a grandfather, from a great-grandfather, and on back to a very ancient human male.

The DNA molecule looks like two spirals with bars joining the spirals, the "double helix." If we uncoil the DNA molecule (second illustration) and stretch it out, it looks like a ladder. The rungs of the ladder are called bases, and each rung is made up of two bases called a base pair with each alphabetical character representing one of the four different DNA components.

The letters A, T, C, and G stand for Adenine, Thymine, Cytosine, and Guanine; however, the only facts important for our purposes is that there are four distinct types of DNA components that can be distinguished from each other and that the components are always paired the same. An Adenine base (A) on one side of a rung is always matched with a Thymine base (T) on the other side, and vice versa. A Cytosine base (C) on one side is always matched with a Guanine base (G) on the other side.

A segment of a DNA molecule might consist of four or five components, perhaps as simple as GTTC (above), repeated over and over, with the second G in our example hidden by the helix strip. Before this sequence began with the first G, there was some other sequence. Personnel at DNA-testing laboratories and other genetic scientists call the sequence that is repeated a short tandem repeat (STR), but the STRs selected for testing may also be called markers because that is the designation often used by laboratories, and marker is the name we will use. The marker to be tested ends when the sequence changes from repetitions of GTTC or whatever sequence was present to repetitions of a different combination, perhaps TAGCC. We need to consider the bases on only one side because when a sequence changes on one side, it changes on the other. This occurs because, as emphasized earlier, the same bases are always paired; for example, T as a base on one side of the unwound molecule is always paired with A as the base on the other side. Thanks to mapping done during the Human Genome Project, the exact location on the YDNA molecule, the helix, is known for each marker that genetic laboratories have designated as sites that are suitable for genealogical testing.

As already stated, a segment of DNA, which may be called a marker when it is tested in a laboratory, can have many repetitions of the same sequence of base pairs. The number of repetitions usually ranges from about seven to more than forty; however, the range of values for any given marker is much smaller, with more than ten possible values (alleles, if you wish) being extremely unusual. Examples from the Alexander DNA project illustrate the relatively few values found even for markers where mutations occur most frequently. Marker DYS439, a rapidly mutating marker has values ranging from 10 to 14, with almost all the repetitions being 11, 12, or 13. Marker DYS449, also a rapid-mutation site, has values from 26 to 34, but very few at either extreme, mostly 29, 30, 31, or 32. DYS390, which does not mutate rapidly, has values from 21 to 27 but, out of approximately 300 men tested at the time I did the analysis, there were only two values of 21 and only one value of 27. DYS454, which mutates extremely slowly, has only one value, 11, for all members of the project. In the male population at large, values of 10 and 12 occur for marker DYS454, although rarely.

For each person tested, each marker has a specific value, and the collection of those values is his haplotype. People who are closely related should be the same haplotype or have only a few mismatched values; however, there is some possibility of change each time YDNA passes from father to son. Although this means that even a man and his father may have one or more mismatches, the mutation rate is slow enough that mismatches in projects a more than a dozen members will likely range from zero to four or five (out of sixty-seven) for people whose lines split in the days of Colonial America.

In addition to testing for the times a sequence of pairs repeats before changing, there is another type of YDNA test that can help in determining relationships, the test for a single nucleotide polymorphism, the SNP or SNIP, mentioned earlier. Although the SNP test is not routinely performed as part of the YDNA test, DNA genealogists and genetic anthropologists define a haplogroup by reference to the SNP that distinguishes it from all other haplogroups, meaning we need another method to make distinctions rather accurately. We will discuss this shortly. The person in whom the SNP occurred would likely be considered to be in the same haplogroup as his father, uncles, brothers, and cousins, but he might later be assigned the title of the progenitor of a new haplogroup if he has a very large number of male-line descendants, but that would not be known for several generations after he lived.

With the necessary words and terms defined simply but not incorrectly, I hope, let us look far, far back in prehistory to the lifetime of the most-recent man from whom all living men descend. This doesn't mean that there were not other men alive at that time also, but, over the centuries and millenia, the lines of the other men ceased having males born to the lines. To make that concept easier to understand, consider that, if you are a Grizzle, your Grizzle great-great grandfather may have had five brothers and that, out of all six men, there may be living male-line descendants of only one, your great-great grandfather. Although it's also possible that all the brothers have living male-line descendants, lines often die out, as several women seeking male cousins to take the YDNA test have discovered!

Let us call the haplogroup of this ancestor of all living men "A," with the knowledge that there is nothing special about calling it A. We could just as well have called his haplogroup "Jim," if that was the name he used. His father, his brothers and, perhaps, many uncles and cousins in the neighborhood and surrounding neighborhoods probably belonged to the same haplogroup and might have objected to their group being dubbed Jim, but that would have been their problem, not ours. Anyhow, the brothers', uncles', and cousins' male lines all died out, leaving only Jim's male descendants. We have called that descendant and all his descendants haplogroup A, at least up to the point that someone in the group had a SNP. SNIP! Their STR, or marker, values may have differed slightly from one man to another, but they all belonged to the same haplogroup.

If Jim's descendant in whom the SNP occurred had a large number of descendants in his own male line, the SNP produced a new haplogroup that we could call A1, which is probably the designation actually given by genetic anthropologists, or we could call the new haplogroup B or X or whatever we wished. Names aren't particularly important except to distinguish one group from another, and the responsible organization changes haplogroup names from time to time. Call the new group A1, and the world now had two patrilineal haplogroups, A and A1. Although the man in whom the SNP occurred and resulted in creation of haplogroup A1 had marker values almost identical to those of most of his cousins who remained in haplogroup A, marker-changing mutations occurred in both groups as generations passed. Over time, by chance, these marker-changing mutations would likely make the most common marker values in one haplogroup different from the most common marker values in the other.

Since a genetic mutation produced haplogroup A1 from haplogroup A, it shouldn't come as a surprise that additional mutations occurred in A and A1. Some of the mutations were SNPs, and some were increases or decreases in the values associated with DNA markers. Both types occurred, slowly but inevitably and produced more haplogroups and more variation in marker values among the haplogroups. Each haplogroup has come to have marker values that are almost a signature for that haplogroup, not the value of any specific marker but the values of a group of markers. This cannot be done with extreme confidence for the Grizzle project since too few (including Grizzells, Grissells, Griswolds) have tested, with most testing at only 37 markers; however, for example, a genetics expert can look at the marker values for a person in one of the larger YDNA projects and say with almost, but not quite, perfect certainty that the person belongs to a specific haplogroup without a test for that haplogroup's SNP being performed. Such discrimination will probably take comparison of several tens of markers.

YDNA Testing And The Grizzle Project

In the project, we learned that most of those testing match no other participant closely. Only those that we will call the "Virginia Colonials," remembering that one of those "Colonials" is British, seem to be a family group. Although the YDNA from the Virginia Colonials match one another quite closely, the mismatches between them and any other participant suggest a separation of at least a thousand years, usually several thousands, forcing one to conclude that the Virginia Colonials are no closer to any other of the testers genetically than to almost any person they might meet casually on the street.

From the discussion so far, it is likely apparent to all that, in general, YDNA markers for men of a common surname can match closely or match very poorly, and, if they have tested on a sufficient number of markers, it is usually easy to determine whether they have a recent common ancestor of that surname. Good matches between individuals with the same surname mean they are likely related unless there is reason to believe otherwise; for example, if one man's family has deep roots in Britain, and the other's family has roots in southern Europe or Russia, they probably have no recent common ancestor. Although it is fairly unusual to have an exact match on all tested markers between two people whose most-recent common ancestor lived in the eighteenth century, there is likely to be no more than one, two, or three mismatches even then, but remember that the exactness of the match does not depend directly on the closeness of the kinship since the mutation that results in the mismatch occurs in the passing of the YDNA from father to son, with there being cases where mutation produced a two-step difference in a marker or even differences in two sites. As examples, in large YDNA projects, you will find exact matches on all markers with a person of the same surname but with no common ancestor born later than about 1700, while each of them differs on one or more markers with a closer cousin. Anyone familiar with probability theory can perform statistical analysis that shows any two people mismatching on more than three or four markers out of thirty-seven tested are very unllikely to have a common male-line ancestor since 1700 or thereabout.

Comparing members of the Virginia Colonial family with their modal marker values
Haplogroup R-M269
Mismatches with Modal
Value on 37 Sites
3 Test Participants 0
3 Test Participants 1
1 Test Participant 2

We are not absolutely certain that the individual who differs from the mode on 2 markers is a close cousin to the others; however, he and several others have assumed kinship to one another. The table below compares modal marker values of the Virginia Colonials with the modal marker values of some other Grizzle Project testers. It is important to remember that Giswell, Grizzell, and Griswold have been used by the Virginia Colonial family, and at least Griswold is used by one branch today.

Comparing the Virginia Colonials and some others claiming Grizzle descent
Family Haplogroup & Probable SNP Mismatches on 37 Sites
Virginia Colonials R-M269 --
Edward Grissell/Griswold, b. ~1706 R-M269 13
James Griswell, 1799 R-M269 14
William Grizzle R-M512 22

It should be readily apparent that the probability of one of the other family groups having a common male-line ancestor with the Virginia Colonial group within the last several thousand years is almost zero.

Appendix A
Homestead Exemption Oath, Nov. 14th, 1878

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Lizer C. Grizzle, Wife of
James M. Grizzle
Exemption Personalty

State of Georgia Cherokee County

To the Honorable Ordinary of said County

The petition of Mrs Lizer Grizzle respectfully showeth that she is the head of a family and is a citizen of said county, family consisting of her husband James Madison Grizzle (her husband refusing to take the homestead), also herself, 36 years old in January next, and 8 children, age and names as follows: Wm Henly, age 18 years 2nd day of last August, Nancy Jane, age 17 years 5th day of last February, James Taylor, age 14 years old 12th day of last August, John Henry, age 12 years 21st last September, George Washington, 10 years old 0th of last June, Thomas Francis, 5 years old 16th last August, Arch Wimpey, 2 years old 11th last February, Fannie Elizabeth, 8 months old, the 27th day of this month (November). The exemption of personalty is sought for the petitioner, her husband, & children aforesaid. And your petitioner desires the benefits of the new constitution of Georgia, passed in 1877, for herself and family out of the annexed schedule to be exempt from levy and sale by virtue of any process whatever for their benefit on the following property, to wit, not exceeding $1600.00.

Schedule A

Two cows & two calves, one cow red, one white, one red, & one white & red spotted $40.00
Seven head hogs, red ----- & dark m---ed 21.00
Two head white sheep 4.00
Three hundred bushels corn 180.00
Three thousand bundles fodder 30.00
Fifty galons sorghum 20.00
One horse wagon, common kind? 17.50
Household and kitchen furniture 100.00
Farming implements 8.00
Fifteen hundred pounds seed cotton 42.50
Sixty bushels cotton seed 6.00
Bible & other books 5.00
One wheel 1.00
Shucks off 300 bushels corn 10.00

Said property now belonging to her husband, petitioner is desirous should belong to & vest in the family aforesaid.

Schedule B

List of creditors Post Office
Isaac Ingram Holly Springs, Cherokee Co., Ga
Louisa Lovinggood Cherokee Mills?, “ “ “
James Pend-e Sutalla?, “ “ “

And now comes petitioner, Lizer C. Grizzle, who on oath says that the above schedule is correct to the best of her knowledge & belief and that the avove list of creditors and the post office is true. Sworn to & subscribed before me this Nov 14th 1878.

Lizer XC. Grizzle

All of which is prayed & notice & c & your time of hearing & c Petitioner will ever pray.
Lizer C. Grizzle by her Atty
B. F. Payne

Cherokee County
Sworn to this Dec 6th 1878
O. W. Putnam Ordinary
And now comes W. _. Reece who on oath says that he has served all the creditors as the law requires.
Filed in office Nov 14th 1878
O. W. Putnam Ordinary
Cherokee Court Ordinary at Chambers Dec 27th 1878
O. W. Putnam Ordinary


Recorded January 17th 1879
James W. Hudson Clerk

Ememption Oath, Page 1

Appendix B
Document From Crawford County, Illinois
With Reference to Larkin Grizzle and
William and Celia Grizzle
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The copyright for the original booklet, printed in 1914, has expired without renewal. The Crawford County, Illinois, Genealogical Society has edited the text by addition of an introduction and has a copyright on that edited version, which they had made available on the internet (Copyright 1996-2016 Crawford County, ILGenWeb). They have no objection to our printing the original; however, they could not address the original publisher's copyright. Since we do not have permission to include their added introduction, we omit it and provide this, our own introduction. As with other parts of the history, people have our permission to reprint it if they give credit to the original work; however, they may not publish any portion of this work for profit.

Three Score and Ten, Fathers and Mothers of Hutsonville Township, printed in 1914 by McNutt and Musgrave Brothers, Hutsonville, IL

The following is a brief record of the men and women of Hutsonville township, Crawford County, Illinois, who have lived the allotted time of three score and ten years. Besides giving an account of each person as to name and birth, name of parents and grandparents, to whom they were married and the number of children, we give a few general characteristics concerning them. Eighty-seven are 70 years old and over - 46 men and 41 women; 45 live in the village of Hutsonville, 16 in the village of West York and 26 in the country. All have been married and 83 are the parents of children 39 are the parents of seven children and over and 16 are the parents of ten children; 86 were born in United States; 37 were born in Crawford county; 69 own their own homes; about 24 receive benefits from pensions; 36 use tobacco; 13 cannot read nor write, 3 are blind; 1 cannot walk; 15 live alone, and about 57 profess religion. Two were born in January, 13 in February, 9 in March, 9 in April, 9 in May, 8 in June, 6 in July, 4 in August, 8 in September, 4 in October, 6 in November and 9 in December. After this information was gathered for private satisfaction McNutt & Musgrave Bros. decided to furnish their friends and customers this account of the fathers and mothers of our township by having it arranged so it can be preserved for future reference by you and your children and grand children. We also remember that these aged people were friends, neighbors and customers of J. M. McNutt, J. R. Hurst, Wm. P. Musgrave, and Nathan Musgrave, who were our fathers and grandfathers. We believe this record will be appreciated and trust it will be preserved for the longer it is kept, the more interesting it will be.
        Yours very respectfully
         McNutt & Musgrave Bros.

A Bit of History of the Members of the Firm of McNutt & Musgrave Brothers

Jesse Musgrave was the great-grandfather of all the members of the firm of McNutt & Musgrave Bros. He was the son of James and Hannah Musgrave, and he (Jesse) died in 1808 on the Nuce River in Wayne County, North Carolina. His descendants have been associated together in a business way almost ever since Hutsonville was laid out. The first general store of any importance in Hutsonville was built on the river front just east of the present hardware store. This was a two-story building, with a large pork packing house in connection, and was conducted by Nathan Musgrave, Wm. Cox and Wm. Hurst, the latter being a brother of the late John R. Hurst, and they were nephews of Nathan Musgrave. This firm did an extensive business for the day and continued from about 1837 to 1850. About 1854 W. P. Musgrave, son of Nathan Musgrave, formed a partnership with the late Dr. Meserve of Robinson. Meserve & Musgrave sold drugs in a small building that stood near where the Farmers & Merchants bank now stands. After a short duration this firm dissolved and in 1861 W. P. Musgrave and Wm. Coffin, a brother-in-law, formed a partnership and started a general store on the ground where the present Hurst Bros. store now stands. After one year Coffin withdrew and Dr. Thomas Kennedy, also a brother-in-law of W. P. Musgrave, became a partner. After a short time Kennedy withdrew and in 1864 W. P. Musgrave and John R. Hurst formed a partnership. Musgrave & Hurst continued the business about one year when Isaac Lowe, father of Judge A. L. Lowe, bought Musgrave out. J. R. Hurst continued in business until his death in 1886. In 1885 J. M. McNutt, the son-in-law of J. R. Hurst, bought the stock and building of J. J. Golden where the present firm of McNutt & Musgrave Bros. now does business. In 1897 N. A. Musgrave became a partner of J. M. McNutt and the firm of McNutt & Musgrave did business until Mr. McNutt's death in 1900, when B. O. McNutt, his son, took charge of the McNutt interest, and the firm continued until 1094 when Mahlon Musgrave became a partner, and since that time McNutt & Musgrave Bros. have continued the business.

James Bennett: age 92, born in Hutsonville township Feb. 25, 1822, son of George and Hannah Bennett; married 1844 to Sarah Bailiff; born 11 children, 6 living.

Solomon Stanfield: age 90, born in Kentucky Dec. 2, 1823, son of Geo. and Mary Stanfield; married in 1849 to Edna Privit; born 4 children. Married again to Anna R. Barker; 1 child. Married again to Lurinda Nichols; 2 children. Married again to Sarah A. Thompson; 1 child.

Cyrus Newlin: age 89, born in Hutsonville township June 3, 1825, son of James and Elizabeth Newlin, grandson of John Newlin; married March 18, 1846 to Eliza A. Hill; born 3 children, 1 living. James Newlin died age 80 and Eliza at 85.

Winfield McCrory: age 88, born in Tennessee Feb. 20, 1826, son of James and Diana McCrory, grandson of Wm. McCrory; married March 9, 1852 to Lucinda Boatright; born 5 children, 3 living. Married again to Zilphia S. Hill; born 4 children, 2 living. James McCrory died at the age of 65 and Diana at 55.

Cyrus Miller: age 88, born in Ohio Feb. 26, 1826, son of John and Anna Miller; married Oct. 20, 1845, to Mary A. Rush; born 1 child. Married again to Lila Braden; born 2 children.

Henry A. Voorheis: age 87, born in Hutsonville township Nov. 14, 1826, son of Mahlon and Eliza Voorheis, grandson of Cornelius and Jemima Voorheis; married in 1856 to Eliza Cox; born 6 children, 5 living. Mahlon Voorheis died at age 50 and his wife at age 59.

T. Elza Kennedy: age 86, born in Clark County, Indiana Dec. 25, 1827, son of David and Percilla Kennedy, grandson of James Kennedy; married to Jane Irwin; born 10 children, 7 living. David died age 80 and Percilla at 85.

James Plew: age 86, born in Sullivan County, Indiana Feb. 29, 1828, son of Simon and Elizabeth Plew; married Elizabeth Salesbury; born 6 children, all living. Simon Plew died aged 50 and his wife at age of 84.

Susan (York) Correll: age 85, born in Hutsonville township July 28, 1828, daughter of John and Martha York; married to Thomas Correll; born 10 children, 5 living.

Wm. P. Musgrave: age 85, born in Hutsonville township Nov. 12, 1828, son of Nathan and Mary Musgrave, grandson of Jesse and Isabelle Musgrave; married in 1849 to Percilla Coffin; born 5 children, 1 living. Married again in 1865 to Catherine Voorheis; born 7 children, 3 living.

James Morin: age 85, born in Kentucky Dec. 18, 1828, son of Walter and Margaret Morin; married to Nancy McKinley Wade; born 4 children, 2 living. Walter and Margaret Morin both died at age 85.

Maria (Smith) Daffron: age 85, born Feb. 2, 1829, daughter of David and Elizabeth Smith; married to James Reel; born 10 children, 5 living. Married again to Elijah Daffron. David Smith died at age of 70 and Elizabeth at 85.

Elizabeth (Foster) Draper: age 85, born at York Feb. 17, 1829, daughter of Barker and Belinda Foster; married in 1850 to Wm. L. Draper; born 5 children, 3 living. Married again to R. B. Higgins.

Eliza (Harris) Southard: age 84, born in Hutsonville township Oct. 1, 1829, daughter of Andrew and Anna Harris; married in 1848 to Thomas Southard; born 6 children, 2 living. Andrew Harris died age 62, and Anna at age 67.

David Shire: age 84, born in Pennsylvania March 12, 1830, son of Jacob and Catherine Shire; married to Sarah Durham; born 2 children. Married again to Iva Bowman; born 6 children, 5 living. Jacob Shire died aged 58 and Catherine at 78.

Nancy (Dawson) Cox: age 83, born in Hutsonville township Feb. 26, 1831, daughter of Daniel and Hester Dawson, granddaughter of Daniel and Anna Dawson; married to Wm. R. Cox; born 4 children, all living. Daniel Dawson died age 70 and Hester at age of 99.

Mary (McKinley) Morin: age 83, born in Indiana Dec. 12, 1831, daughter of Wm. and Nancy McKinley, granddaughter of James and Jane McKinley; married to Gabriel Wade; born 5 children, 2 living. Married again to James Morin; born 4 children, 2 living. Wm. McKinley died age 82 and Nancy at age of 57.

Deborah (Spencer) Canada: age 82, born in Indiana May 10, 1832, daughter of Thomas and Sarah Spencer; married to Wm. Canada; born 9 children, 4 living. Thomas Spencer died age 75 and Sarah at 60.

Sophia (Correll) Jordan: age 82, born May 13, 1832, daughter of Hiram and Rebecca Correll; married John Jordan; born 4 children, 2 living, Ola and Clint.

Samuel Lindley: age 82, born in Hutsonville township May 28, 1832, son of Wm. and Mary Lindley, grandson of Wm. and Mary Lindley; married in 1861 to Harriet Hollenbeck; born 7 children, 6 living. Wm. Lindley died at 57 and Mary at 85.

Sarah (Buckner) Bell: age 81, born in Hutsonville township July 25, 1832, daughter of Henry and Martha Buckner, granddaughter of Elias and Sarah Buckner; married Feb. 1, 1848 to Wiley Bell; born 5 children, 3 living. Henry Buckner died at 35 and Martha at 45.

Jane (Coryell) Ferguson: age 81, born in Ohio Nov. 18, 1832, daughter of Hiram and Amanda Coryell, granddaughter of Daniel and Sarah Coryell; married in 1855 to John Rogers; born 1 child. Married again in 1865 to John Ferguson; born 1 child. Hiram Coryell died at 59 and Amanda at 55.

Eliza (Stuck) Ralston: age 81, born in Indiana Nov. 29, 1832, daughter of Wm. and Mary Stuck, granddaughter of John and Susan Stuck; married in 1859 to Andrew Ralston; born 6 children, 3 living. Wm. Stuck died at 51 and Mary at 67.

Eliza (Cox) Voorheis: age 81, born in Hutsonville township March 12, 1833, daughter of Thomas and Debby Cox, granddaughter of John and Zelpha Cox; married in 1856 to Henry A. Voorheis; born 6 children, 5 living. Thomas Cox died at 63 and Debby Cox died at 65.

Margaret (Grimes) Walters: age 81, born on Walnut Prairie April 20, 1833, daughter of Emanuel and Lydia Grimes; married in 1852 to Andrew J. Knight; born 5 children, 1 living. Married again to Mose Walters; born 1 child. Emanuel Grimes died at 50 and Lydia at 52.

Seth Wade: age 80, born in Indiana July 15, 1833, son of Seth Wade; married to Ellen Osborn; born 6 children, 3 living.

Louisa (Orcutt) Orcutt: age 80, born in Hutsonville township August 3, 1833, daughter of Hiram and Bethlehem Orcutt, granddaughter of Charles Orcutt, married Sept. 2, 1852 to Donley Orcutt; born 1 child, deceased. Hiram Orcutt died at 40 and his wife at 25.

Harrison Correll: age 80, born in Hutsonville township August 24, 1833, son of Alfred and Mehalia Correll, grandson of John and Mary Correll; married Nancy Hill; born 10 children, 2 living.

Wm. J. Colliflower: age 80, born in Maryland Sept. 18, 1833, son of Peter and Mary Colliflower; married Jan. 3, 1860 to Sarah A. Horning; born 10 children, 7 living.

Burnemo (Canaday) McDonald: age 80, born in Indiana Dec. 15, 1833, daughter of Richard and Mary Canaday; married Richard McDonald, born 6 children, 3 living.

Hannah (Shewmann) Adams: age 80, born in Ohio Dec. 20, 1833, daughter of Christian and Anna Shewmann; married to Lewis Adams, born 8 children, 5 living.

Alfred Correll: age 80, born in Hutsonville township Jan. 19, 1834, son of Hiram and Rebecca Correll, grandson of John and Mary Correll; married Sarah J. York. Married again to Mary Hill; born 10 children, 4 living.

Enoch Scotten: age 80, born in Indiana March 12, 1834, son of Emery and Mary Scotten; married to Ellen Dance; born 2 children, 1 living, Melville. Married again to Ellen Montgomery; born 5 children, 3 living, Emily, Elery and Clint.

Hannah (Ogden) Ormiston: age 80, born in Melrose township, Clark Co., April 25, 1834, daughter of Benjamin and Polly Ogden; married Jeremiah North; born 2 children. Married again to Benjamin Ormiston; born 5 children, 4 living.

Marion Sackrider: age 79, born in Hutsonville township Sept. 20, 1854, son of Solomon and Malinda Sackrider, grandson of John and Mary Sackrider; married in 1858 to Mary A. Lindley; born 6 children, 5 living. Married again in 1876 to Rose Bennett; born 3 children, 2 living. Solomon and Malinda Sackrider died at the age of 45.

Martin Newlin: age 79, born in Hutsonville township Feb. 16, 1835, son of Andrew Sr. and Rachel H. Newlin, grandson of James and Elizabeth Newlin; married in 1863 to Emma J. Hill; born 4 children, 3 living. Married again in 1885 to Angeline Piety. Andrew Newlin died at 67 and Rachel at about 23.

Sarah (York) Correll: age 79, born March 28, 1835; married Alfred Correll; born 10 children, 4 living.

Mary (Cox) Rains: age 79, born in Hutsonville township April 6, 1835, daughter of Thomas and Debby Cox, granddaughter of John and Zelphia Cox; married in 1856 to Lafayette Rains, born 9 children, 4 living.

Sarah (Guyer) Conrad: age 78, born in Hutsonville township June 15, 1835, daughter of Axiom and Susan Guyer; married in 1861 to James Conrad; born 6 children, all living.

Margaret V. (Vaugenburg) Conell: age 78, born in Ohio July 24, 1835, daughter of John and Iva Vaugenburg, granddaughter of Thomas Vaugenburg; married in 1863 to Samuel J. Conell; born 4 children, 1 living.

J. Alfred Lowe: age 78, born in Hutsonville township Nov. 8, 1835; married in 1858 to Elizabeth Kottel; born 5 children, 3 living. Married again in 1875 to Nancy Cox; born 8 children, 6 living.

Marshall Johnson: age 77 , born in Indiana April 16, 1836, son of Zachariah and Delilia Johnson, grandson of Arthur and Luthia Johnson; married in 1858 to Marietta Bert; born 7 children, 1 living. Married again in 1893 to Anna Smith. Zachariah died at 77, his wife at 31.

Benjamin Ormiston: age 77, born in Ohio April 27, 1836, son of David and Mary Ormiston; married in 1862 to Hannah North; born 5 children, 4 living.

Rebecca (Hiles) Odell: age 77, born in Illinois Aug. 3, 1836, daughter of John and Elizabeth Hiles; married Moses Odell; born 11 children, 6 living. Married again to Alonzo Switzer. John Hiles died at the age of 40 and Elizabeth at 37.

Elizabeth (Hardway) McCoy: age 77, born in Ohio Sept. 8 1836, daughter of Andrew and Margaret Hardway; married in 1859 to Albert McCoy; born 7 children, 5 living, Nora, Mattie, Ausby, Wm. and Charles. Married again to Jacob Wineman. Parents died at the age of 84.

Mary (Cox) Boyd: age 77, born in Hutsonville township April 4, 1837, daughter of Matthew and Anna Cox, granddaughter of Braxton and Anna Cox, great-granddaughter of Nancy Cox who lived to be 115 years old; married John S. Boyd; born 3 children, 1 living. Matthew died at 75 and his wife at 65.

Paulina (Conrad) Winters: age 76, born in Hutsonville township Sept. 13, 1837, daughter of Abraham and Rebecca Conrad; married in 1857 to Cyrus Winters; born 12 children, 8 living.

Aaron Guyer: age 76, born in Hutsonville township Nov. 29, 1837, married in 1860 to Josephine Evans; born 4 children, 3 living.

George Fultz: age 76, born in Virginia Jan. 10, 1838, son of Joseph and Mary Fultz; married in 1868 to Fanny Drake; born 8 children, 2 living.

Mary J. (Willard) Pearce: age 76, born in Hutsonville Feb. 9, 1838, daughter of Charles and Lucy Willard, granddaughter of Daniel and Sarah Willard; married in 1863 to John Pearce; born 12 children, 7 living.

Dr. Wm. Eaton: age 76, born in Indiana Feb 27, 1838, son of Charles and Sarah Eaton; married in 1867 to Eliza Griffith; born 5 children, 3 living. Married again to Martha Clark in 1890.

Sarah (Horning) Colliflower: age 75, born in Hutsonville township May 18, 1838, daughter of Isaac and Sarah Horning; married Jan. 3, 1860 to W. J. Colliflower; born 10 children, 7 living.

Mary A. (Horn) Anderson: age 75, born in Ohio June 6, 1838, daughter of Washington and Elizabeth Horn, granddaughter of Wm. and Elizabeth Horn; married in 1866 to Samuel Anderson; born 4 children, 2 living.

John W. Reynolds: age 75, born in Indiana May 11, 1838, son of Abel and Sarah Reynolds, grandson of Jesse and Wilmetta Reynolds; married Louisa Willard; born 8 children, 5 living. Abel died at 94 and Sarah at 77.

James Fesler: age 75, born Oct. 1, 1838, son of Nicholas and Lucinda Fesler; married to Ellen Willison. Married again to Melissa F. King; born 8 children. Married again to Matilda Jones. Nelson Carpenter: age 75, born in Darwin, Illinois, Dec 19, 1838, son of Jacob and Fannie Carpenter; married in 1875 to Margaret Truitt. No children.

Wm. Prevo: age 74, born in Clark County, Indiana Feb. 25, 1839, son of Wm. and Cethia B. Prevo, grandson of Samuel Prevo; married in 1862 to Panina Willard; born 5 children, 2 living. Wm. Prevo died at 65 and Cethia died at 60.

Sally A. (Musgrave) Seigle: age 74, born in Hutsonville township Feb. 16, 1840, daughter of Wm. and Eliza Musgrave, granddaughter of John and Charity Musgrave; married in 1863 to Theodore Seigle; born 8 children, 7 living. Wm. Musgrave died at 72 and Eliza at 72.

John Montgomery; age 73, born in Ohio April 1, 1840, son of Wm. and Mary Montgomery, grandson of Samuel Montgomery; married in 1865 to Elizabeth Ball at York; born one child. Mr. and Mrs. Montgomery separated in about 1873 and married again in 1913. Wm. Montgomery died at 65 and Mary at 39.

Malinda (Guyer) Spivey: age 73, born in Hutsonville township May 7, 1840, daughter of Axiom and Susan Guyer; married in 1867 to Joseph Willard. Married again in 1872 to Evan Spivey; born 4 children, 2 living. Axiom Guyer died at the age of 75 and Susan at 72.

Daniel Dry: age 73, born in Pennsylvania June 15, 1840, son of George and Elizabeth Dry; married Hannah Thompson; born 8 children, 3 living.

Thomas Anderson: age 73, born in Ohio July 16, 1840, son of Wm. and Agnes Anderson, grandson of Wm. Anderson; married April 15, 1883 to Elizabeth Johnson; born 1 child. (has a notation that Thomas died 26, March 1914).

N. W. Lowe: age 73, born in Hutsonville township July 30, 1840, son of Wm. and Elizabeth Lowe; married in 1864 to Irene Correll; born 10 children.

John L. Cox: age 73, born in Hutsonville township Dec. 10, 1840, son of Thomas and Debby Cox, grandson of John and Zelpha Cox; married Jan. 25, 1866 to Augusta Rains. Married again Nov. 25, 1875 to Lucinda Mickey; born 8 children, 6 living. Converted in June 1860, began preaching the Gospel in 1868.

John Kinney: age 73, born in Vermillion County, IL, Dec. 30, 1840, son of George and Elizabeth Kinney, grandson of Isaac and Mercy Kinney; grandson on mothers side of John and Sarah Reynolds, John Reynolds had a brick blacksmith shop southeast of where the coal docks now is; married Dec. 30, 1859 to Nancy E. Boughs; born 7 children, 6 living.

Harriet (Hollenbeck) Lindley: age 72, born in Clark County, IL, March 26, 1841, daughter of John and Estella Hollenbeck; married in 1861 to Samuel Lindley; born 7 children, 6 living.

Matilda (Farmer) Fesler: age 72, born May 14, 1841, daughter of Ephraim and Minerva Farmer; married in 1863 to Andrew Jones. Married again in 1893 to James Fesler.

Josephine (Evans) Guyer: age 72, born in Hutsonville township April 3, 1842, daughter of Thomas and Lucy A. Evans; married in 1860 to Aaron Guyer; born 4 children, 3 living.

Mary (Layton) Hill: age 72, born in Ohio July 20, 1842, daughter of Armstead, and Hannah Layton; married to Pembrook Hill; born 2 children, 1 living, Chester. Married again to William Reynolds.

Harper Reynolds: age 71, born in Hutsonville township Aug. 23, 1842, son of Enos and Mary Reynolds, grandson of John and Elizabeth Reynolds; married in 1868 to Sarah H. Buckner; born 1 child. Married again in 1873 to Katherine Bradbury; born 5 children, 3 living.

Catherine (Batey) Martin: age 71, born Sept. 9, 1842, daughter of Henry and Martha Batey, granddaughter of Thomas and Elizabeth Batey; married in 1861 to Harry H. Flesher; born 2 children, none living. Married again Jan. 7, 1897 to Walker Martin.

Isaac N. Horning: age 71, born in Pennsylvania Sept. 11, 1842, son of Isaac and Sarah Horning; married Mary Harry; born 5 children, all living.

G. B. Everingham: age 71, born in Hutsonville township March 2, 1843, son of John and Sarah Everingham, grandson on mother's side Nathial and Elizabeth Newlin; married Feb. 4, 1868 to Anna Musgrave; born 6 children, all living. Nathail and Elizabeth Newlin both died at 89.

Samuel Ayers: age 71, born in Pennsylvania March 24, 1843, son of Wm. and Margaret Ayers; married in 1867 to Rebecca Robinson; born 10 children, 6 living.

Martha (Cox) Stiles: age 71, born in Hutsonville township April 9, 1843, daughter of Thomas and Debby Cox; married in 1863 to Richard L. Stiles; born 8 children, 3 living.

Wm. Grizzle: age 70, born in Georgia May 16, 1843, son of Larkin and Elizabeth Grizzle, grandson of Wm. and Cecila Grizzle; married to Laura Blankinship; born 1 child. Married again to Barriria Stewart; born 5 children, 2 living.

Elizabeth (Holmes) Newlin: age 76, born in Hutsonville township May 26, 1843, daughter of Reuben and Lucy Holmes, granddaughter of Geo Holmes; married in 1859 to Elias Newlin; born 4 children, 3 living.

Margaret (Truitt) Carpenter: age 70, born in Hutsonville township June 22, 1843, daughter of Robert and Mary Truitt; married in 1875 to Nelson Carpenter.

Wm. O. McCoy: age 70, born in Hutsonville township June 29, 1843, son of Wm. and Sarah McCoy, grandson of Alex McCoy; married in 1869 to Angeline Cox; born 7 children, 4 living.

Irene (Correll) Lowe: age 70, born in Hutsonville township Sept. 24, 1843, daughter of Hiram and Rebecca Correll, granddaughter of John and Mary Correll; married in 1864 to N. W. Lowe; born 10 children.

Cella (Cassidy) Lake: age 70, born in Indiana Sept. 8, 1843, daughter of Johnson and Katherine Cassidy; married to Thomas Hall; born 5 children, 1 living. Married again to Henry Lake; born 2 children.

Lydia A. (Horning) Furry: age 70, born in Ohio Oct. 4, 1843, daughter of Isaac and Sarah Horning; married in 1860 to Emanuel Furry; born 3 children, all living.

Joseph Kopta: age 70, born in Bohemia March 4, 1844; son of Jacob and Ina Kopta; married in 1872 to Lucinda Evans; born 2 children. Married again to Charlotte Shew.

Nelson Clark: age 70, born in Pennsylvania March 4, 1844, son of Lorenzo and Lucy Clark, grandson of John and Hannah A. Clark; married in 1867 to Mary Barker; born 1 child. Married again in 1874 to Cecila Cox; born 2 children, both living. Lorenzo died at 78 and Lucy at 76.

Maria (Vickery) Johnson: age 70, born in Sullivan County June 26, 1844, daughter of Christopher and Mary Vickery, granddaughter of Adam Vickery; married in 1866 to Bailey Johnson; born 4 children, 1 living. W. E. Kinman: age 70, born in Indiana Oct. 2, 1844, son of Leonard and Sarah Kinman; married in 1865 to Emily Miley; born 2 children both living.  

Appendix C:
Evidence of Maiden Name of Celia, Wife of
William H. Grizzle: Information Given by
Larkin Grizzle at His Second Marriage
From the Research of Larry Grizzle
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Appendix D: Descendants of John Henry Grizzle

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Note: I could not find sufficient evidence to claim with certainty that James was the son of Edmond and Rebecca Grizzle Sutton, but such is likely. He married in Lumpkin County where Rebecca and Edmond lived, and his marriage partner Eliza Gooch, from a family with whom other members of the Grizzle family had marriages. Some may use the counter-argument that James and Eliza did not name any of their children Edmond or Rebecca. Family of William H. Grizzle and Celia Smith Family of James Grizzle and Rachel King Family of Rebecca Grizzle and Edward Sutton

Appendix E:
The Generations
by John Alexander With Assistance by Sherry Grizzle and Larry Grizzle
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In general, we have not followed the daughters' families, whose surnames are not Grizzle, more than two generations.

The number 0 denotes the generation of John Henry Grizzle's father, whose identity is uncertain, and the number 1 denotes the next generation with the alphabetic characters assigned to the children in that generation. Since we are sure of only John Henry, he gets the first letter of the alphabet and becomes 1a. John Henry's children become 2a1, 2a2, 2a3, etc. The line followed will be in bold type. The numbering and lettering will not necessarily be the birth order since we are sometimes not sure of that order. For example, we assigned 2a1 to John Henry's son John, 2a2 to William, and so forth. For the next generation, 3a2a is William's and Celia's son Larkin, 3a2b is William, and 3a2c is Val's ancestor, James Madison, or Matt.

0. Father of John Henry, most likely William of colonial Virginia, but uncertain) An earlier ancestor was likely another William Grizzlle, born in Europe, probably Great Britain, in the early 16th century, migrated to colonial Virgina in 1654. (That William, the 1654 immigrant, is an ancestor can be only speculation, our hypothesis, but such appears very likely.) John Henry's father was certainly from Virginia, but little else is so certain. John Henry probably had brothers and sisters.